LotR 英語なんでも掲示板



ホーム | 一覧最新記事検索

No.393  現状確認(とり急ぎ、続きは夜)
発言者: 白い都
発言日: 2002 11/03 11:58
Dear Ms. Boyens,

This is my second letter on Japanese subtitles for your film "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring".
I sent you a letter in September and you kindly replied to me. My fellow members of the movement for better and proper subtitles on FotR are much encouraged by your letter. Let me thank you again on behalf of them.

Today, I report to you about the subtitles in DVD/VHS released in Japan on September 21st . I'm sorry it has taken so long. The reason is that the members have not reached an agreement on the evaluation.

We did find that some of the errors in subtitles were revised, but opinions differ among the fans, from "accetable as a whole" to "absolutely unforgivable". At least, "The Most Serious Errors" which I sent you the list of, were all repaired except for these two lines :

>The Departure of Boromir (chapter 38)
[script] I let Frodo go.
[subtitle] He has left.
[script] Then you did what I could not.
[subtitle] I am ashamed.

That is, Boromir is not a liar, and there isn't "the Creator of life" anymore. But in my opinion, there still remain too many bad translations and unsuitable words for the scene in the subtitles in DVD/VHS. I think they are far from satisfactory, not at all what your FotR deserves, though I admit that they are better than the theater version.

I have picked up some of the remaining errors to show you, and with the help of translators have made "A List of Mistranslations in DVD/VHS", inadequate as it is. It is attached at the end of this letter.

And now, I have another bad news to tell you: your current trailer for "The Two Towers" on the Japanese official website from October 18th, to our great dismay, is marred by the Japanese subtitles AGAIN. TheOneRing.net took up this news and I enclose a copy of the article in this letter with the list. Maybe you know it already?



これは、あなたの映画「ロード・オブ・ザ・リング 第一部 旅の仲間」の日本語字幕に関する2通目の手紙です。



[脚本] I let Frodo go.
[字幕] 彼は発った
[脚本] Then you did what I could not.
[字幕] 恥ずかしい




Mistranslations of Japanese Subtitles in DVD/VHS

>Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe (chapter 6)
[script] There are some things that I must see to.
[subtitle] I have my business.
[script] What things?
[subtitle] What business?
[script] Questions. Questions that need answering.
[subtitle] Many things. I have to finish them.

>The Shadow of the Past (chapter 8)
[script] But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.
[subtitle] But its power is too terrible to imagine.

>The Council of Elrond (chapter 23)
[script] I will help you bear this burden, Frodo Baggins. As long as it is yours to bear.
[subtitle] I will share the burden. I will be watching you.

>The Council of Elrond (chapter 23)
[script] Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king.
[subtitle] King of Gondor? King is not needed.

>The Council of Elrond (chapter 23)
[script] If this is indeed the will of the council, then Gondor will see it done.
[subtitle] If this is the decision of the council, Gondor will obey it.

>A Journey in the Dark (chapter 28), The Road Goes Ever On...(chapter 39)
[script] So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.
[subtitle] Everyone feels that way when he's having a hard time. But you can't change it. So you'd better think what you should do at the moment.
comment:**[Subtitle in theater virsion] Everyone feels that way when he's having a hard time. It is too rate to regret. So you'd better think what you should do at the moment.
The error of "It is too rate to regret." was revised, but "a hard time" is still remained.

>Parth Galen (chapter 36)
[script] I know what you would say, and it would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart.
[subtitle] Your words sound kind, but they mean warning to me.

>Parth Galen (chapter 36)
[script] We're all afraid, Frodo, but to let that fear drive us to destroy what hope we have. Don't you see, it's madness.
[subtitle] We're all afraid, but if we are overcome by fear, all will be lost. Don't forget it.

>Parth Galen (chapter 36)
[script] It has taken Boromir.
[subtitle] Boromir....

1.現在の予告編current trailer と 同封するenclose は、Telperion様のご意見を入れました。

2.予告編がDVDより後に出たことを明確にするために、日付を入れたいです。 from October 18th でいいですか。




322:脚本家ボウエンズさんへの手紙 [白い都] 10/25 03:16
 ├323:お疲れ様です。ありがとうございま... [ゴン] 10/25 11:12
 ├324:最短で三日 [ハーブ] 10/25 19:17
 │└327:[依頼]無理に急がなくて結構で... [白い都] 10/26 00:37
 │ ├348:連名について [ゴン] 10/27 21:08
 │ ├361:途中報告(半分相談) [ハーブ] 10/29 21:41
 │ │└363:Re:途中報告(半分相談) [白い都] 10/30 03:12
 │ │ └368:Re[2]:途中報告(半分相談... [ハーブ] 10/30 23:38
 │ └391:仕上がりの見込みなど [ハーブ] 11/03 02:00
 ├332:第1回「添削」と提案など [ハーブ] 10/26 21:24
 │├336:Re:第1回「添削」と提案など [白い都] 10/27 01:37
 │└341:[参考]私家版・DVD字幕の不満 [ハーブ] 10/27 11:07
 ├343:DVD誤訳拙訳リスト:第一回試案 [ハーブ] 10/27 14:04
 │├344:リストについて、提案 [Evenstar] 10/27 18:55
 ││├346:「こんな時代」と人はいう・・... [白い都] 10/27 20:44
 │││├351:Re:「こんな時代」と人はいう.. [ハーブ] 10/28 00:56
 │││└352:Re:「こんな時代」と人はいう.. [Evenstar] 10/28 07:23
 ││└350:難しいところです [ハーブ] 10/28 00:38
 ││ └354:難しい理由、追記 [ハーブ] 10/28 10:14
 ││  └366:難しくないと思う理由(長... [Evenstar] 10/30 04:17
 ││   ├367:断片的に・随想的に [ハーブ] 10/30 10:38
 ││   └401:[余談]timesの疑問(別.. [白い都] 11/04 01:44
 │└358:誤訳リストへの意見 [白い都] 10/29 01:36
 │ └360:Re:誤訳リストへの意見 [ハーブ] 10/29 21:30
 │  └362:誤訳リストにコメントをつけ... [白い都] 10/30 01:48
 │   └369:今回ではないですね? [ハーブ] 10/31 00:12
 ├370:第2回文案:監修の件以外 [ハーブ] 10/31 00:50
 │├371:Re:第2回文案:監修の件以外 [白い都] 10/31 02:57
 │├373:追加、ミスなど [ハーブ] 10/31 23:34
 │├376:首を突っ込みます [Telperion] 11/01 00:23
 ││└378:感謝歓迎 [ハーブ] 11/01 02:45
 ││ └386:急ぎ、the score is reduced [Evenstar] 11/02 17:46
 ││  └392:サポート感謝です! [ハーブ] 11/03 02:08
 │└382:【試案】最後の部分 [ハーブ] 11/02 02:09
 │ ├383:抜け&伺い [ハーブ] 11/02 02:23
 │ └393:現状確認(とり急ぎ、続きは夜... [白い都] 11/03 11:58
 │  ├395:Re:現状確認 [ハーブ] 11/03 19:50
 │  │└400:最期の段落 [白い都] 11/04 01:35
 │  │ ├402:TTT予告編の発表日? [白い都] 11/04 02:45
 │  │ │└406:18日でしょう。 [ハーブ] 11/04 19:11
 │  │ ├403:これベースで行きましょ... [ハーブ] 11/04 03:29
 │  │ ├405:最後の段落修正1 [ハーブ] 11/04 18:52
 │  │ │└409:補足・理由説明など [ハーブ] 11/04 23:27
 │  │ ├408:最後の段落・その2 [ハーブ] 11/04 23:11
 │  │ │└411:修正疑問点など [白い都] 11/05 00:48
 │  │ │ └413:最後の段落その3 [ハーブ] 11/05 01:52
 │  │ └410:あちらこちら [Telperion] 11/05 00:11
 │  │  └412:Re:あちらこちら [白い都] 11/05 01:12
 │  └396:comment の添削 [ハーブ] 11/03 20:08
 ├372:DVD誤訳リスト第2回【ヘルプ!】 [ハーブ] 10/31 23:15
 │├377:Re:DVD誤訳リスト第2回 [白い都] 11/01 01:23
 │├379:DVDチャプターの原題 [ここのつ] 11/01 17:05
 ││├380:助かりました! [ハーブ] 11/01 18:44
 ││└381:誤訳リストのチャプター名 [白い都] 11/02 01:00
 ││ └384:うっかりしてました(^^; [ここのつ] 11/02 07:50
 ││  └387:私もうっかりしてました(^^.. [白い都] 11/02 17:49
 ││   └397:リスト入り字幕の提案 [ここのつ] 11/03 22:25
 ││    ├398:いきなり自己訂正(^^; [ここのつ] 11/03 23:39
 ││    └399:ご指摘の箇所について [ハーブ] 11/04 01:12
 ││     └404:Re:ご指摘の箇所につ.. [ここのつ] 11/04 16:42
 │├385:補足など [ハーブ] 11/02 10:12
 │└388:主にリスト関連 [Telperion] 11/02 19:05
 │ └394:感謝&不完全応答 [ハーブ] 11/03 19:31
 └414:第3回文案と問題点(413まで) [白い都] 11/05 19:15<-last