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No.1294  PJ宛送付文(加筆解説)
発言者: ハーブ
発言日: 2003 01/05 20:27
ここのつ様が文法ミスなどはおおむね直してくださった上、加筆は最小限にとどめていらっしゃるので、そちら(#1284)をベースにしています。
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>I am a great fan of your film "The Lord of the Rings."
加筆提案:, and I have been a Tolkien reader for more than 20 years. The
Japanese subtitle problem is utterly crucial to me.

>My friends and I have been protesting against the terrible Japanese subtitles since March 2002. Some of us have sent you the petitions about the subtitles in FotR with the list of "Most Serious Errors in the Translation of the Japanese Subtitles," "Examples of Remaining Mistranslation in DVD/VHS," and so on.
問題ないと思います。長過ぎるようならリストの正式名称を簡単にする事も考えられますが。

>Now I send you some materials including the official announcement on December 25th by the Japanese distributor, Nippon Herald Films Inc., for you to take into consideration.
⇒Now I send you some materials for you to take into consideration. They include the official announcement on December 25th by the Japanese distributor, Nippon Herald Films Inc., which has caused a flood of renewed anger among us fans.
>If you have already received these things, please forgive me to bother you.
⇒If you have already received these things, please forgive me.

カット提案:次の部分、Enclosuresの目録の前か後に移動してはどうでしょうか。手紙本文は極力簡潔にして最後の2段落まで読んで欲しいので。
>I regret that some of them are in Japanese. We didn't have enough time or worker to translate all of them, and we are in a hurry because the release of TTT in Japan is coming. I would ask you to have someone who is good at Japanese to read them.

>You may hear of the article on the OneRingNet titled "Japanese Translations Improving? Now in Greece…." in the news section on 12/28. In that article there is a English translation from the official announcement of Nippon Herald Films Inc. made by Luinneion. But there are a number of inaccuracies and serious mistranslation in it. So I send you the original Japanese one with the Englisih translation of the main part.
⇒You may already know of the article on the OneRingNet titled "Japanese Translations Improving? Now in Greece…." in the news section on 12/28, where you can read English translation of the official announcement of Nippon Herald Films Inc. But I have to say that whoever the writer Luinneion is, the article had a number of inaccuracies and serious mistranslations in it. So I send you the original Japanese one with our English translation of the main part.

>The official announcement, in short, says that Natsuko Toda who was responsible for the FotR subtitles will remain as the subtitler for the future installments.
⇒The official announcement, in short, says that Natsuko Toda who made all the distortion in FotR will remain as the subtitler for the future installments.

>Nippon Herald Films Inc. insist that they have heard nothing from you. After all, they say that the names of translators will be shown before the original title in the subtitled TTT print as follows: "Subtitles by Natsuko Toda, in collaboration with Akiko Tanaka (co-translator of the original books) and Hyoronsha (publisher of the books)."
⇒Nippon Herald Films Inc. insist that they have heard nothing from you. After all, the name Natsuko Toda will be shown BEFORE the original title in the subtitled TTT print!

あるいは両方まとめてこの段落
⇒The official announcement, in short, says that they have heard nothing from you, that Natsuko Toda who made all the distortion in FotR will remain as the subtitler for the future installments. In the subtitled print in Japan we will see the name Natsuko Toda be shown BEFORE or along with the original title 'The Two Towers', where you avoided to put your name!

>They also say that on the TTT international trailer, Akiko Tanaka and Hyoronsha had checked the both translation of the subtitled version and the dubbed version. And we confirmed there was the great difference between the impressions given by the dubbed version and the subtitled one. Just like the case of FotR, while the dubbed version turns out to be quite excellent, the subtitled version continues to be a problem. If you have someone who reads Japanese well enough to understand the sensitive meanings, you can compare the two versions in the enclosure (2).

2文め
⇒But we assure you, there was a great difference between the impressions given by the dubbed version and the subtitled one, great enough to motivate us to start a new petition.
新規挿入提案:If based on the same 'complete translation' and equally checked and double-checked as they tell us, what then, we ask, makes the difference?
この文カット提案、または文末変更
>Just like the case of FotR, while the dubbed version turns out to be quite excellent, the subtitled version continues to be a problem.
最後の部分 continues to be a problem. ⇒ continues to be painfully problematic.
ラスト1文
If you have someone ⇒ I hope you have someone

最終段落のみ白い都原案ベース
>Therefor the situation on the Japanese subtitles has not substantially improved. We believe that this 'entire consultation process' is just a big smoke screen. It seems, that as long as Toda remains the main subtitler, there is nothing for the Japanese fans to rejoice about.
⇒ I believe that this lengthy 'entire consultation process' explained in the announcement is just a big smoke screen by Nippon Herald Films Inc. As long as Toda remains the main subtitler, there is no hope for the Japanese fans to genuinely enjoy your TTT.

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