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No.915  【決定稿】誤訳リスト
発言者: ハーブ
発言日: 2002 12/13 14:28
#914とのタイトルの差は、こちらは【完成】と言い切れる出来ではないという個人的感情によるもので、たいした意味はありません m( _ _ )m

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      EXAMPLES OF MISTRANSLATIONS
  that Distorted "The Fellowship of the Ring"

    Corrected and Uncorrected in DVD(2-disk)/VHS
      (Re-translated into English)




  Mistranslations in Theatrical Release
     Later Corrected in DVD/VHS
(from "The List of Most Serious Errors" sent to you in August)

>At the Sign of the Prancing Pony (chapter 12)
Barliman:
[script] Good evening, little Masters.
[subtitle] What are these shorties here for?
comment:The subtitle made Barliman too rude a landlord to offer any greetings to his guests, who looks down on Hobbits.

>The Council of Elrond (chapter 23)
Boromir:
[script] Long has my father, the Steward of Gondor kept the forces of Mordor at bay. By the blood of our people are your lands kept safe.
[subtitle] My father who was the Steward of Gondor beat off the army of Mordor. By the blood of our people, he kept your lands safe.
comment:According to the subtitle, Boromir's father was already dead. Some of the audience who had read the original thought the story was changed by the director.

>The Bridge of Khazad-dum (chapter 30)
Gandalf:
[script] I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor!
[subtitle] I am a servant of the Secret(Anor) Fire, the Creator of life!
comment:It is unbelievable. "Wielder of the flame" was eliminated, Anor was identified with Secret, and "the Creator of life" was made up by the translator.
>Lothlorien (chapter 31)
Boromir:
[script] And the tower guard shall take up the call "The Lords of Gondor have returned."
[subtitle] And the tower guard will cry "The King of Gondor has returned."
comment:Boromir calls Aragorn his king only at his death. But the subtitle completely ignored this and spoiled the climax of the film.

>Farewell to Lorien (chapter 34)
Galadriel:
[script] I give you the light of Earendil, our most beloved star.
[subtitle] I give you the light of Elendil.
comment:All the Tolkien readers among the audience were puzzled to find "Earendil" was changed to "Elendil", leaping over three thousand years.

>Parth Galen (chapter 36)
Frodo:
[script] You are not yourself.
[subtitle] You are a liar!
comment:Frodo knows Boromir is now under the dominion of the ring, but the subtitle described Frodo as despising Boromir utterly. It settled the impression of Boromir for the audience as an ill-willed, dishonest man.

>Parth Galen (chapter 36)
Frodo:
[script] Can you protect me from yourself? Would you destroy it?
[subtitle] Don't you need this? Can you destroy it?
comment:It looked as if Frodo were the tempter, not the ring.

>The Departure of Boromir (chapter 38)
Boromir:
[script] Our people. Our people.
[subtitle] Our species. Human beings.
comment:Boromir means the people of Minas Tirith, not the human race on earth as a whole. This subtitle does not lead to the next line of Aragorn, "I will not let the White City fall."

>The Departure of Boromir (chapter 38)
Aragorn:
[script] I do not know what strength is in my blood. But I swear to you, I will not let the White City fall. Nor our people fail.
[subtitle] By the strength in my blood, I will protect our city, and save men from ruin.
comment:It was too bold of the translator to assume that Aragorn no longer expressed his doubts about his inheritance.

>The Departure of Boromir (chapter 38)
Boromir:
[script] I would have followed you, my brother. My captain. My king.
[subtitle] I feel regret, our brother. Our captain. Our king.
comment:After Boromir heard Aragorn's words "our people", he finally accepts Aragorn as the king. "My" is an important word because Boromir personally pledges allegiance to his uncrowned king. These subtitles obscured Boromir's feelings.

>The First Footage of "The Twe Towers"
Gandalf:
[script] Sauron is not so mighty yet that he is above fear.
[subtitle] Sauron is nothing for us to fear.
comment:This error reveales the translator's total lack of very basic knowledge of the story in addition to the very poor understanding of English language.

>The First Footage of "The Twe Towers"
Saruman:
[script] So Gandalf Greyhame thinks he has found the lost King of Gondor.
[subtitle] Did Gandalf find the lost Kingdom of Gondor?
comment:Another unprofessional mistake. One who does not know the difference between 'king' and 'kingdom' should not do the job.


EXAMPLES OF BAD TRANSLATIONS IN DVD(2-disk)/VHS
     (Remaining Uncorrected)


>Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe (chapter 6)
Gandalf:
[script] There are some things that I must see to.
[subtitle] I have my business.
Frodo:
[script] What things?
[subtitle] What business?
Gandalf:
[script] Questions. Questions that need answering.
[subtitle] Many things. I have to finish them.
comment:This is the scene where it occurs to Gandalf for the first time that the ring might be the One Ring, and this suspicion urges him to leave at once. Yet the subtitles fail to communicate the gravity of the situation.

>The Shadow of the Past (chapter 8)
Gandalf:
[script] But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.
[subtitle] But its power is too terrible to imagine.
comment: This translation gives no helpful explanation as to why the powerful wizard refuses to shoulder the burden in stead of the little one. The ring is all the more terrible in the hand of the great, and this is what sets Frodo, not a great warrior nor a wiseman, at the center of the story.

>The Council of Elrond (chapter 23)
Boromir:
[script] Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king.
[subtitle] A king for Gondor? We do not need one.
comment:These subtitles create a domineering impression that a 'king' or 'kingship' as a notion is quite unfamiliar to Boromir, as if Gondor were a republic.

>The Council of Elrond (chapter 23)
Gandalf:
[script] I will help you bear this burden, Frodo Baggins. As long as it is yours to bear.
[subtitle] I will share the burden. I will be watching you.
comment:The subtitle utterly fails to illuminate the core issue here, that the burden of the ring-bearer belongs solely to Frodo and that it cannot be shared.
>The Council of Elrond (chapter 23)
Boromir:
[script] If this is indeed the will of the council, then Gondor will see it done.
[subtitle] If this is the decision of the council, Gondor will obey it.
comment:Boromir does not 'obey' the council's decision, he only concedes to its will. Yet the subtitle conjurs an image as if Boromir has given up his argument altogether. As a result, he gets portrayed as a betrayer in the later stage of the film, who once obeyed and then turns to his own selfish scheme.

>A Journey in the Dark (chapter 28), The Road Goes Ever On...(chapter 39)
Gandalf:
[script] So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.
[subtitle] Everyone feels that way when he's having a hard time, but you can't change it. What's more important for you is, to think what you should do at the moment.
NOTE: Only the subtitle for the latter part of the first line has been changed.
[subtitle in theater] Everyone feels that way when he's having a hard time, but it is too late to regret.
comment: The philosophical discussion gets denigrated down to a mere issue of street smartness.

>Parth Galen (chapter 36)
Frodo:
[script] I know what you would say, and it would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart.
[subtitle] Your words sound kind, but they mean warning to me.
comment:The subtitler does not seem to know that 'but for' is one thing and 'but' is quite another.

>Parth Galen (chapter 36)
Boromir:
[script] We're all afraid, Frodo, but to let that fear drive us to destroy what hope we have. Don't you see, it's madness.
[subtitle] We're all afraid, but if we are overcome by fear, all will be lost. Don't forget it.
comment:To Boromir the ring is a gift, a powerful weapon that can be used against the Enemy as he said at the council. That has never left his mind and he cannot accept the idea that the ring should be destroyed. None of such thoughts of his is expressed in the subtitle.

>Parth Galen (chapter 36)
Frodo:
[script] It has taken Boromir.
[subtitle] Boromir....
comment:The subtitler, Natsuko Toda, often does this with short sentences: She takes one single noun out of the line and adds a question mark, or else three dots. Another example is in the article of TheOneRing.Net: "Warning?"
These two cases are representative of this style of hers.
Such subtitles, needless to say, give audience little information and much confusion. But it does not occur to many that the fault is in the translation and not in the script itself.

>The Departure of Boromir (chapter 38)
Aragorn:
[script] I let Frodo go.
[subtitle] He has left.
Boromir:
[script] Then you did what I could not.
[subtitle] I am ashamed.
comment:Here, Boromir understands that Aragorn won over ring's temptation to which Boromir himself has succumed to, and as a result he recognizes Aragorn as his superior. Yet the subtitles do not introduce these trains of Boromir's thoughts and emotions.

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